tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post3075524209304243574..comments2023-11-03T02:44:56.790-07:00Comments on Fortress: Ameritrash: Good Game, Good GameMatt Throwerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04426055092986158446noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-38370541382527184292007-11-24T13:31:00.000-08:002007-11-24T13:31:00.000-08:00You state that the top rated games at boardgamegee...You state that the top rated games at boardgamegeek and the internet top 100 games list are mostly German-style boardgames and that this is because the voting on both lists is dominated by fans of German-style games.<BR/><BR/>Do you have evidence or do you think so?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-41110157418064015722007-03-15T22:57:00.000-07:002007-03-15T22:57:00.000-07:00I can't see how claiming that Ameritrash games sel...I can't see how claiming that Ameritrash games sell better reinforces the claim that they are somehow superior to Eurogames. In America as well as Germany the top seller, by far, is Monopoly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-5608962979858149722007-03-15T17:38:00.000-07:002007-03-15T17:38:00.000-07:00I think that the overlap between BGG and The Inter...I think that the overlap between BGG and The Internet Top 100 is simply due to the fact that the same people voted on both. The Top100 started around a decade ago (by me) back when rec.games.board was the locus of gaming information. I suppose some people keep updating their votes on both, but now that RGB has (basically) died and things have splintered to BGG, Consimworld, Grognard.com & blogs, I think a lot of it is chaff. I haven't updated my votes there in years.<BR/><BR/>I haven't played much Caylus over the last year, mainly because 130 games (mainly on BSW) leads to burnout.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12627081755365858901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-43747462277612968692007-03-14T16:55:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:55:00.000-07:00Ken, I'm pretty sure most people prefer "GOOD GAME...Ken, I'm pretty sure most people prefer "GOOD GAMES". That's kind of in the definition of the word "good".<BR/><BR/>"We'll tolerate dice. We'll tolerate unbalanced scenarios. Just give us a good game."<BR/><BR/>I guess what you're trying to say here is that other people don't tolerate dice or unbalanced scenarios. That's slightly accurate. I think most people prefer it when the game is balanced, and I think many see the randomness dice as a crutch that designers often used to use as a substitute for actual player choice and diversity through game balance. <BR/><BR/>Other people just don't like randomness at all. I think it would be fair to say that they consider the games they like to be "GOOD GAMES" too.<BR/><BR/>"We can recognize a good game when it comes from another genre."<BR/><BR/>Many people have this capability.<BR/><BR/>"At this point, I am wondering...just who DOES love Caylus?"<BR/><BR/>Well, I know several people who enjoy it. I used to play it two-player on BSW a lot, and it's really good for that. It feels very similar to Chess. I think most people who like it do so because it's a relatively complex perfect-information, non-random resource-management game without a runaway leader problem or a turn-order problem, and with interesting mechanics for player interaction. At this point I am wondering a bit about your claim that you "can recognize a good game when it comes from another genre". One big clue might be that a lot of people rate it highly on BGG. Do you think they're lying or something?<BR/><BR/>I do not wish to criticize your choice of games (which I share a lot of), but your post seems pretty self-centered while claiming the opposite.Sean McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06122290908439875428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-64676249548760015652007-03-14T15:49:00.000-07:002007-03-14T15:49:00.000-07:00Great article. I think we are already over the hon...Great article. I think we are already over the honeymoon period though and people are starting to realize this. You can simply tell which Eurogames are going to make it and which aren't. <BR/>Stuff like Settlers and El Grande will be classics like some of the AH titles of old. Things like Thun 'n Taxis and St Pete's will end up as thrift store fodder.Mr Skeletorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17641339798508135450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-78745793312310914642007-03-14T14:59:00.000-07:002007-03-14T14:59:00.000-07:00I did play settlers 10 years ago, and yes, I can s...I did play settlers 10 years ago, and yes, I can say for a fact I still love playing it today. I can't however say the same about Titan, when I played it 10 years ago. So I guess your analogy has broken don't with me.MWChapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09901309293432210098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811769968708731746.post-48679316317961263552007-03-14T07:03:00.000-07:002007-03-14T07:03:00.000-07:00I like to think of ATers as fans of GOOD GAMES.We'...I like to think of ATers as fans of GOOD GAMES.<BR/><BR/>We'll tolerate dice. We'll tolerate unbalanced scenarios. Just give us a good game.<BR/><BR/><BR/>We can recognize a good game when it comes from another genre. Ra is a "10" for me. I can play it with anyone I know.<BR/><BR/>GOOD GAMES.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>At this point, I am wondering...just who DOES love Caylus?Ken B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01621793460967739987noreply@blogger.com